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New - AREDN's first USB Mesh device: GL-USB150

Huge thanks to ​Joe Ayers AE6XE for being awesome and to ZL2WRW and others for contributing the code for AR150. AREDN and ham radio's first mesh-capable USB device now exists in the GL-USB150 (still experimental FW -nightly load 896). 

The GL-USB150 Microuter is the result of basically cramming a USB-to-Ethernet adapter and an AR150 inside a USB stick (minus the second LAN port and USB host port of course) - all for $30. 
With such a small footprint, this device would be great for traveling and tunneling back to the home mesh or hitting your local 2.4GHz AREDN nodes. It has a lot of memory like the AR150, but also has very low power (20dBm).

On the PCB there's a Realtek USB to Ethernet chip inline before it hits the tiny Ethernet pinouts on the AR9331 chip. For those of us with no Ethernet ports on our laptop, this is great, because it's already built in. They used one of the most common USB to Ethernet chips (Realtek RTL8152B). Upon its connection to the computer via a USB port, it will work as a USB Ethernet 10/100 adapter.

Here's a link to buy one of these:
https://amazon.com/GL-iNet-GL-USB150-Microuter/dp/B06XTXKRMY/

I'll attach some photos of my node running IperfSpeed and Meshchat and the board layout.
I will show a few projects in the future on how to increase the range of your WiFi USB stick in a tight package.


-Damon K9CQB


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Photos of GL-USB150

Here are some photos of my GL-USB150 AREDN node and some board layout.

* The last 2 photos are a comparison of how my WiFi travel router connects to my laptop with the GL-AR150, compared to the GL-USB150 Microuter. One is more sleek than the other.

-Damon K9CQB

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K6AH
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Ok Damon...

... you finally pushed me over the fence ;-)  I just ordered one on Amazon and it'll be here tomorrow.
 

Wb8qjz
You Enticed Me To Try This Device

Thanks for the great information on this device . I ordered two and successfully 
updated and configured the first one tonight .  It’s operating flawlessly so far.
the wheels are turning in my head about future uses . Please keep us all informed.

Stan WB8QJZ 

WU2S
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Thank you

Thank you for the thorough update on these interesting little units!

n9ms
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WAN Connection

I'm plugging in my AREDN node gl-usb150 into a Windows 10 computer. Is there any way to get the device a WAN connection for use with the tunnel client/server?

K5DLQ
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not at the moment.

not at the moment.
It would take firewall/iptables manipulation on the host (Windows, OSX, Linux) to do this.
 

K6AH
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Check out the gl-ar150

...but the gl-ar150 will do tunnels.

WA9JG
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Issues with the GL-USB150?

I bought two of them on Amazon.    I had one of them loaded with Nightly ​960-d8f9320 at the workshop K5DLQ put on at Transtar in Houston.   While in the class I was not able to see or connect to a mikrotik hAC.  I assumed that it was somthing I did.  I did check the channel and bandwidth and they were correct.   
So,  after arriving at home I loaded up my second GL-USB150.   They cannot see each other...    I noticed that the WIFI scan was blank also.   I have multiple SSID's in my house operating on 2.4Ghz

Should I see them in the wifi scan window or is that a ubquiti only feature?  
Is there some localization that must be done prior to updating the firmware to the AREDN image?     

I have a 2.4Ghz bullet being delivered at home today I will get that loaded up later tonight. 

As an update I also checked to see if I could see the SSID's using a scanner and I do not see the AREDN-5-v3 SSID nor do I see any RF out in the 2.4Ghz range using my HackRF one SDR 
I also updated to the 987-74ca6f5 nightly build with the same results. 

nc8q
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Issues with the GL-USB150?

This sounds familiar.
Did you 'un X' the box next to 'Keep Settings' when you loaded the firmware?

A device set to 20 MHz bandwidth can find other 20 MHz bandwidth devices but not 10s or 5s.
Set both/all your devices to 10 MHz bandwidth and re-scan or
set all your devices to channel 1 through 6 and 20 MHz bandwidth and re-scan.
There seems to be a bug with 5 MHz bandwidth settings.

I hope this helps, Chuck
 

WA9JG
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I did uncheck keep settings..

I did uncheck keep settings...     I made that mistake the first time I loaded one up.  I'm an old netork guy so I figured out where to find it and did a firmware reset.   
I think I got them working.   I did GL reload putting on the GL firmware then followed the full reinstall and saw RF this time and the can mesh with each other..   I wonder if not clearing the setting was the cause because I made that mistake on the first one..... I noted my steps when troubleshooting. I did not watch closely when I did the first one.   

Thanks for your input! 

Jim

K6AH
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Try 10MHz bandwidth

Try changing to 10MHz bandwidth.

K6CCC
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OK, I ordered one too...

This looks really cool.
You got me.  I have one of these on order.  It will arrive at my office on Monday, but that is my day off so I'll have it Tuesday...
 

N3IIG
GL-USB150 Software

I can't seem to find the software for the ​GL-USB150 - they say under (still experimental FW -nightly load 896). but I can't seem to find it. Any links?
Since it's referred to as 896 I'm looking for something that has 896 in it but found this instead:
aredn-1101-ad0caaf-gl-usb150-sysupgrade.bin
would this be it? Where does the # 896 come from?

nc8q
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Current Nightly Build

That is the correct nightly build for your device, today.
NB 896 was back in May.
This morning it is 1101.
Tomorrow, who knows.

Hope thtis helps, Chuck

N3IIG
GL-USB150 Software

Got it, flashed the unit - I get to the login page and have tried root/hsmm but doesn't let me login to setup the node. I've set 5-6 ubiquity devices where they have all been root/hsmm. That possibly change too?

K6CCC
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CAPS lock?

Are you in CAPS lock?  I think we have all done that at some time...
I don't remember having to do anything different as long as you remembered to UNCHECK the box to save settings (or something like that).  If you let it retain the settings, it will likely be the USB150's previous login.

 

N3IIG
GL-USB150 Software

caps lock is off -
tried root/mesh
tried root/mhss
tried to reset
tried to log in with previous name/pw
What can I use to flash the unit back to original ( I did backup the original software) and start all over.

w6bi
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login

Don't know if you typo'ed it or not, but it's root/hsmm

 

K6CCC
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If you have the option to go

If you have the option to go back and start over that may be the easiest.  If I recall when I did mine, the really obvious way to do a firmware update was to do a drag and drop of the new file to a huge box that covered a large part of the screen as a "target".  Don't do that as it does not give you the option to NOT save settings.  Without looking at it, I don't remember exactly what it looked like when NOT doing that, but that did give the option to NOT save settings.
 

N3IIG
GL-USB150 Software

Finally got it. I didn't know about the check box for the settings to be remembered when flashed so the password was the original as you suggested. That and a couple of other issues with the default name/password between the software and the resets as well as the ip address changes. It's up and running.
Thank you for your patience and input! Now I got it straight and can help others.
JIm - N3IIG

PS yes the mhss was a typo in the forum but had it right where it counted.

K6CCC
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Cool! Glad you got it.  

Cool!
Glad you got it.
 

kk6qms
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Are there basic setup

Are there basic setup instructions somewhere? I have it flashed but need help w RF/Wifi etc. Thx.
Clifford - KK6QMS

K5DLQ
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The DOCS menu at the top of

The DOCS menu at the top of this website.....

kk6qms
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There is no info on the

There is no info on the USB150 in the docs.

K6CCC
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Clifford,  I am not aware of

Clifford,  I am not aware of specific instructions, but feel free to call me.  I use mine regularly and should be able to help.  As I recall, you have an AREDN phone..  I have two lines available.  The first is ext. 4179 on the Ventura County PBX. The second is ext. 6216 on the AI6BX PBX. This can also be reached via 909-6216 on the nationwide network. My phone can also be direct dialed via IP address of 10.4.158.45 from another VoIP phone on the AREDN network.
 

kk6qms
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Thx- but my phone is in Palm

Thx- but my phone is in Palm Springs and I never got it working. I am in NV for another couple weeks. Confused about the RF/Wifi settings.
Thx.

K6CCC
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Sent you a PM

I just sent you cell number in a direct message.
 

W2GMD
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For anyone who ends up on

For anyone who ends up on this thread (like me) after having flashed their USB150 and said "now how do I get into it?"

1) Flash a nighly sysupgrade build (as opposed to what you're used to with 'factory' on Ubiquiti devices).
2) Power-cycle (unplug and replug).
3) Press and hold the Reset button for ~10 seconds.
4) Connect to the admin page http://192.168.1.1 and setup your mesh node.

From there you should be good to go. I was stuck on #3 because I did not un-check the 'save settings' radio button before flashing, but this is a way around it.

 

WB5PJB
GL-USB150 Brief Notes

Using a USB port on a Windows 10 PC to setup the GL-USB150, everything worked according to the instructions, which gets you up to the point where you log into the AREDN node at 192.168.1.1.

Once the initial setup was done on the AREDN setup page at 192.168.1.1 and I went to save the changes (new password, node name, set distance to farthest neighbor, set channel width if different than the default 10 MHz, etc.), the unit rebooted automatically and at that point I could no longer access the GL-USB150 on the PC. The PC would not obtain an IP address in the 10.xxx.xxx.xxx range from the node after the node rebooted. I am not sure if there is something I needed to do to make that happen, but it wasn't a big deal because I could simply connect to the new GL-USB150 node from another AREDN node that was in the room (which had connected to the new node) and make any additional setup changes that I wanted, such as time zone, grid square, etc. And from there, all was set the way I wanted it and the GL-USB150 has worked with no issues.

I haven't seen any operational notes regarding the GL-USB150, but there isn't much to point out :). Just a note that there are two green LEDs on the GL-USB150 and the LED closest to the end will be lit when the GL-USB150 node has connected to at least one other node.

In the photo below, the node is plugged into a modest 8000 mAh cell phone power bank and it operated continuously for about 21 hours, so it can make for a very portable AREDN node that can run for quite a while on a good sized cell phone power bank. Put together a battery pack with a small solar cell and charge controller to keep the battery charged, and the little node could run for a very long time. Don't expect great range with the GL-USB150, but it could serve well in some niche applications.

73,
Gary, WB5PJB



 

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