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RF Enclosures

Has anyone tried RF Enclosures like the RF Armour?  
Do they help the nodes work better as they claim?

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Including
• Lower noise floor
• Cleaner signal
• Superior signal to noise ratio
• Fewer wireless retries and errors
• Higher sustainable air rates
• Up to 50% increase in performance
https://www.rfarmor.com/index.php/dish-kits.html 

Thanks

Misha FN76
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K6AH
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They work...
There are others on the forum who can comment on their performance with the NanoStation, but I will say they are required at collocated sites.  But for my Rockets at commercial or ARRDN same-band collocations these are a must.  

Andre, K6AH
 
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A question came up at our clubs meeting
A few of our members are convinced that these encloses would detune the antenna and lead to premature failure.  Does anyone have any endorsements from Ubiquiti concerning their use? 

Misha 
Moncton, NB Canada
FN76
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KG6JEI
While I suppose it's possible

While I suppose it's possible this could detune the antenna I haven't heard any reports of such.  The manufacture makes no note of avoiding metal around it (in fact metal exists inside the unit) --- The core 50 Ohm parts are inside and away from the case by a bit. 

Commercial ISP's (those running thousands of units) swear by then, even if they are de-tuning they are still seeing improved link quality (so the detuning could not be significant)

Inside a NanoStation M2 it isn't a free space antenna. It is dual circuit boards (one providing the reference ground to which the radiating elements are tied)

After that we get to "failure" by detuning.  This would be a heat generated issue (reflected power.) The top Ubiquiti device puts out around 600mw.  That is minimal heat to be generated.  This is significantly less then a normal mobile puts out, we're not trying to throw back 50w of power into a small brick were talking at worst 300mw per chain (300mw*2=600mw). Factor in that anything more than 3db loss would probably shownup by causing issues and your down to a max of a VERY manageable 150mw heat disappation.  Considering sunlight can induce far more heat this seems to me to be insignificantly low to cause a failure.

These are are also the same types of chips used in home routers, those devices get abused left and right (including no antenna at all) and still keep kicking because the power is so low.

N8NQH
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If you are in the DIY mood
n1cz
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No curves. No numbers of any
No curves. No numbers of any sort for any product?
No, not suspicious at all. And, anecdotal results are not the same.

Would not see significant RL change even if the pattern influence is even in the near field except for signal being reflected directly back ... the products can't be that bad. But, WHO has a means of measuring any RF change at all? Patterns or whatever? Not to mention radome loss. This guy doesn't.

LinkedIn shows a Christopher Sisler as Pres. at RF Armor in New Holland, PA. Surely there is someone on this forum that lives near enough to visit.

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