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VE2CCK
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Provide Internet Access to the Mest AP
Need advise...
I purchase this node, and configure it yesterday (for my home shack) : RBSXTsq5nD-US
For now, i'm the only one in the area (if i'm looking at the actual MeshMap), so don't have enough power to connect to another node.. yet.. but it's growing here.

If i want to give Internet Access to this node, what should i set ? (so NTP will synch, and all other stuff)..

My actual Setup is :
Microtik -> PoE cable (80ft) -> PoE Switch -> GLiNet Router
192.168.1.8 -----------------------------------------> 192.168.1.1
Here what i set on the NEtwork section : 
Mesh Adress : i keep it there .. so 
Lan type : NAT
IP Adress : 192.168.1.8
netmask : 255.255.255.0
WAN mode : Static
Adress : 192.168.1.8
netmask : 255.255.255.0
Gateway : 192.168.1.1
DNS : 8.8.8.8 and 1.1.1.1

And under "Advanced Option", i enable those (or keep them enable if they were) : 
Mesh to WAN
LAN to WAN
LAN to 44Net
LAN default route


The LAN DHCP is disable to avoid collision with my home DHCP router.

I don't know if i set this up right, any optimisation ?
nc8q
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Provide Internet Access to the Mest AP
Provide Internet Access to the RBSXTsq5nD-US?

What firmware is in the RBSXTsq5nD?
Router OS?
AREDN firmware?

Which GLiNet Router?
What firmware is in the GLiNet Router?
Manufacturer's OS?
AREDN firmware?

https://docs.arednmesh.org/en/latest/arednHow-toGuides/home-router-conne...

73, Chuck

 
VE2CCK
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Still need info
Firmware in the node : latest available so 3.25.8
Router OS, its my home router, not Arden router. It's a Flint 2 latest firmware (Glinet) 

The portion of the guide is so limited for providing internet access to the node, its the reasons i asked here, hopping to see if i was well configured or not the device. It advertise to connect the WAN port of the node to home router... Showing devices with more than one port... But my node is to be installed outside, and only have 1 port. That seem to act as WAN and LAN port (because provide DHCP that i disable to not conflict with my home DHCP) 

I end up with this small information ; http://docs.arednmesh.org/en/latest/arednHow-toGuides/home-router-connec...

I think i have provide enough information on my initial request, asking if it was ok they way I set it to communicate with internet from my home router... No? 

What's puzzled me, is that in the menu of the node,
  • i can click on the Firmware menu and it seem checking a site and display me available firmware...
  • I can check for plugin
  • I can zoom on the map to identify where is the node
I was then assuming internet access work for the node... 
But NTP not synching....

So, i then ask here, to see if i did something wrong, as i can't find details information on your website... 
nc8q
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Single port AREDN node
The single port AREDN node has
LAN untagged
WAN tagged on VLAN1
DtD tagged on VLAN2

To access internet on the RBSXT you will need a user programmed:
VLAN switch or a hAP-ac2 or hAP-ac3 or or Gl-iNet AR150, AR300M, AR750 or similar.

You do not need to disable the SXT's DHCP service.

What's puzzled me, is that in the menu of the node,
  1. i can click on the Firmware menu and it seem checking a site and display me available firmware...
  2. I can check for plugin
  3. I can zoom on the map to identify where is the node
1. From a computer that already has internet access?
2. ?
3. From a computer that already has internet access?


73, Chuck
 
VE2CCK
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I just want the node to be
I just want the node to be able to advertise his location on the Arednmesh map, synch ntp,, not necessary want to provide internet access to other who connect to the node. 

Yes, those step i did to check firmware, was done from a computer on my home network switch, so have access to Internet. So suspect the interface where triggered queries from my computer, and not from the node. Even if i have set some switch on on the node that seems to advertise the traffic will go this direction (when hit help, i have more details info) 

The AR150 is discontinued, but not the 300m, but why having another router connect to this node instead of using my router? 

It will look like this 
Mikrotik - - - > PoE injector. - - > AR300 - - > home switch PoE. ---> MT6000. (home router) 

I was more expecting this configurations :
Mikrotik - - - >. Home switch PoE. - - - - >. MT6000 (home router) 

I select the Microtic because i can connect it in a location away from my home, with already present underground networks cable i used for PoE device. 
PoE switch and router on UPS. 

I was in the impression that when I set those wan to lan switch on and Mesh to wan, those enabling that, and think the NAT option will simply flow traffic from the node to my internet provided by my home router. 

Or i really need to build another full network isolated from mine, and from there find a way to connect it to my home router with WiFi connection as examples? 
 
w6bi
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AREDN integration into home network
Erik, this is the most common method to integrate an AREDN network into your home network.  The Mikrotik hap ac3, loaded with AREDN software, will route your computer traffic as needed.
Hope this helps.

73
Orv W6BI

VE2CCK
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Thanks ! That graph help a lot
Thanks, that exactly what i need to know, to do this. That picture will be usefull on the guide !
I suspect i need to upgrade it the same way i did the node.. so PXE approach ?
I interesting to see.. they have PoE In !

 

So.. what should i do then (i juste order this proposed AP)
Node Network :
  • WAN Mode : DHCP (actually i set it Static.. with 192.168.1.8 ... so i can go on it now)
AP : DHCP enable
  • So he will provide the IP to the Node once requested ?
Maybe by looking at the software on the AP, it will be different thant the node and i will find "how to"

In my region, there is no node arround.. but i intend to make it work, and then present that to the HAM club.. it more interesting when you show something working !
VE2CCK
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Set the Mikrotik hAP AC - Now how connect the SXTsq Lite 5?
I let the network will all defaut : 
Lan type : /29 (5 host)
WAN Mode : DHCP
in Avanced Option, all ON for now (to be able to access all equipement in that lan later)

Under Ports & Xlinks" .. Port 5 : dtd
Port-4 : LAN : untaged
WLAN untaged (but connect to my router). NTP updated, so communication work there

In the LAN DHCP, i remeber the MAC adress of the SXTsq Lite5.. so i set a fixed IP there

****

So the SXTsq Lite5.. is there any "how to" configure it on this router.. i think i may only need to set something in the Network setting i don'T have right...
 
nc8q
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I just want the node to be
I just want the node to be able to advertise his location on the Arednmesh map...
It is not just that simple.
Your node must be 'connected' to a 'supernode' that is already on the arednmesh.org map.

why having another router connect to this node instead of using my router? 
Because your node (SXT) is expecting to find WAN tagged on VLAN1 and your home router does not tag its WAN on VLAN1.
Your home router's WAN is untagged.
+1 with Orv. Add a hap-ac3 (or ac2) and you are good-to-go.

In the beginning of your note you say:
'not necessary want to provide internet access to other who connect to the node'. 
Yet the last half of your note seems to indicate a desire to provide internet access (WAN) to
'a location away from my home'.

If you want DtD and WAN access in 'a location away from my home',
you may need to transport both VLAN1 and VLAN2 data.
You may need a VLAN capable switch in your home and one in the 'location away from my home'.

73, Chuck

 
AB7PA
Why are you using NAT Mode?
Is there a special reason why you are using NAT mode?  It makes what you want to do more complex.  Very few folks use NAT mode unless there is a very special case that demands it.

VE2CCK
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NAT
In fact, set it while attempting to configure the node. So no reasons there. I didn't find a good guide to configure the node, accessible from my home computer (for monitoring, or firmware upgrade or other stuff). If someone already did a guide with NODE and AP (connection to home router, accessible from home router with port forwarding rules, or other methods) will be nice. Otherwise, i will do lot trial and errors figuring out the best configuration for home HAM shack

Note : for me a guide have lot of detail information with picture, so more than a 2 line of information. That can be followed by any experience and inexperienced user that have some basic knowledge, but not expert in networking. 

Don't know yet what option will be available after flashing the Microtik AP, hope to be able to set a port forwarding between WAN and the Node. So can access and monitor/change setting without the need to move my computer on the dedicated network (AP). 
AB7PA
Example SXTsq with VLAN switch

In this example if you set your SXTsq node to "5 host" Network mode (rather than NAT), then connect the node's Ethernet port to a smart switch that can provide VLANs.  Set port 1 to VLAN 1 tagged and set port 5 to VLAN 1 untagged.  All of the other switch ports become available for you to plug in computers or cameras or phones that will get their IP addresses on your node's LAN network.  You node will get a WAN IP address automatically via DHCP from your home router.  
VE2CCK
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Received the MikroTik hAP and configure it
It's received and configured. Now i assume i only need to change the IP of the node for DHCP, so the AP will provide the adress.

After that... Read a little more on this forum. But as I'm traveling a lot, i now have a way to access it remotely for testing 
N4LPK
Internet access over Mesh
We are adding AREDN Mesh to a hospital site. The site  has a repeater and it needs to connect to a repeater at a sister hospital in the south part of the county. We will use a 5ghz hop about half the distance to the second hospital. We at one time had these two hospital repeaters linked over the mesh using Allstar as private nodes with no public access. Hurricane IAN took down the antennas at this one facility and now it is finally getting restored.  I want to keep one node private on the mesh but make one public. The nodes being reinstated will have internet on them coming from the source of their signal.  I want take that Allstar Node and make it public over the internet connection on the mesh. I will have to do a port forward in order to get the proper port opened on the internet feed to make this happen. Is this doable if the internet feed is coming over the mesh from a different site?

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