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w8erd
Not Access Points

Native Bullets , Nanostations and Rockets are NOT access points.  It has taken me some time to realize this.  See the note below from Ubiquiti.
Is the same true for the same AREDN versions?

Rick P. (Ubiquiti Help Center) 

Sep 11, 2020, 8:30 UTC 

Hi Bob,

We do not support configuring airMAX radios to provide WiFi for regular devices like smartphones and laptops. The airMAX radios are used for Point to Point or Point to MultiPoint wireless links to work with other airMAX radios. 

We recommend to use our line of UniFi Wireless products for WiFi. 

If you have any other questions, please let us know.

Thanks!

Best,

Rick P.
Ubiquiti Inc.



Bob W8ERD

nc8q
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Is the same true for the same AREDN versions?

Native Bullets , Nanostations and Rockets are NOT access points. It has taken me some time to realize this. See the note below from Ubiquiti. Is the same true for the same AREDN versions?

Bob:

I do not understand the phrase 'same AREDN versions'.
I will attempt a guess and say:
"Any Ubiquiti device loaded with AREDN firmware is no longer a Native Ubiquiti device."
"Supported devices loaded with AREDN firmware can be an AP, a client, or a 'mesh' node (ad-hoc)."

Chuck

w8erd
not access points

I have turned off airmax and tried MANY settings, all unsuccessful. Tried 2 different bullets. Had to reload firmware with tftp a few times.
Here is the last exchange with Ubiquiti.
 

Rick P. (Ubiquiti Help Center) 

Sep 14, 2020, 3:37 UTC 

Hi Bob,

The UAP-AC-IW can be powered through U-POE-AF if you do not want to use an UniFi Switch. However, you won't be able to use the PoE passthrough from the UAP-AC-IW as it requires 802.3at PoE. This is discussed in this community post: https://community.ui.com/questions/UAP-AC-IW-power-requirements/6bf98e7b-4675-4f2d-aa60-1f4d226ad17c 

You can check the supported PoE modes for the UAP in this article: https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000263008-UniFi-Supported-PoE-Output-and-Input-Modes#3 

You can check the datasheet for max power consumption here: https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/unifi/UniFi_AC_APs_DS.pdf 

I wouldn't suggest using the airMAX devices just for providing DHCP. You can use any of our routers to provide DHCP for the devices: https://www.ui.com/products/#unifi 

The Access Point mentioned in the airOS 6 user guide is the Access Point mode for the airMAX radios. As mentioned earlier, the airMAX radios are used for Point to Point or Point to MultiPoint wireless links to work with other airMAX radios. In such a setup, one of the radios is configured as an Access Point which will connect the main router/ISP connection. The other radios are configured as Station which will obtain the connection from the AP. So, the AP broadcasts the main connection and the Stations receives and forwards the connection through the LAN. 

For set-up help or product recommendations, we highly recommend taking advantage of our community forum, which has thousands of active users with years of experience that can point you in the right direction. You can find our forum here:

http://community.ubnt.com

You can also contact a reseller/distributor in your area, and they can assist with set-up help or choosing the right products for certain jobs. You can find local resellers/distributors here:

http://www.ubnt.com/distributors/

Hope that's helpful. If you have any other questions, please let us know!

Thanks!

Best,

Rick P.
Ubiquiti Inc.

 

 

Bob Dixon

Sep 12, 2020, 13:36 UTC 

Rick - 
 
This seems strange, You are saying that none of the airmax radios (including bullets and rockets) are wifi access points. Yet the airos6 manual mentions wifi in many places, and airos6 has an option to turn on access point.
Please explain this apparent contradiction.
 
Dr Robert Dixon

 

 

Bob Dixon

Sep 11, 2020, 18:47 UTC 

I am very sorry to hear this. I have been working on this for months. I am designing a portable communications hub in a luggage traincase, which will be used for emergency communications of many kinds.
You should publicize the fact that airmax radios cannot be used in this kind of application.
I will have to notify my colleagues across the country.
 
Your recommended Unifi wireless, so I looked into that and the UAP-IW seems small enough
to fit in the case.  Does it really HAVE to be used with your switch?  That is clearly not possible 
in this application.  How much current does it draw? Can I not use a 48V POE?  Can I use some other 
device to provide DHCP, such as perhaps a bullet? What do you suggest?
 
Thanks!
 
Dr Robert Dixon

 

 

Rick P. (Ubiquiti Help Center) 

Sep 11, 2020, 8:30 UTC 

Hi Bob,

We do not support configuring airMAX radios to provide WiFi for regular devices like smartphones and laptops. The airMAX radios are used for Point to Point or Point to MultiPoint wireless links to work with other airMAX radios. 

We recommend to use our line of UniFi Wireless products for WiFi. 

If you have any other questions, please let us know.

Thanks!

Best,

Rick P.


Bob W8ERD

nc8q
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AREDN OS .vs. AirOS

Hi, Bob:

 I was making assumptions that you were using AREDN firmware.
It seems that you are using AirMax or AirOS which is Ubiquiti firmware.
I have only very briefly used AirOS...and not in the last 3 years.
Sorry.

Chuck
 

ko0ooo
Bullet as a vanilla AP

The Bullet can be configured as an access point using airOS.     

I've been using them for months on both 2 and 5 GHZ to allow clients, with their laptop wifi cards, to access the MESH network.    

below is a screen capture showing the Bullet in AP mode with one user connected.

Richard    ko0ooo



w8erd
Vanilla Bullet

Thanks Richard  -

Are multiple wifi clients on the bullet able to connect to one another?

Bob W8ERD

ko0ooo
good question...

Bob,

I've never tried and no one has ever said anything.

the Bullet is in Bridge mode, all connections get their IP from the MESH node.

Richard    ko0ooo

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